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10 years 2 months ago - 10 years 2 months ago #21 by sozzled
Replied by sozzled on topic Australian Politics and Politicians
To be honest with you, Tushy, I don't understand your complaint. Alexander Downer was expressing an opinion about Peter Costello, which he's entitled to do as an individual, whether or not he's an elected member of parliament. I don't think he was trying to have a stoush, I merely think that he was saying that Peter Costello had "had his day" and it was time for him to consider retirement. The fact that Mr Downer is not currently a politician and earns a living by writing his opinions for the Adelaide Advertiser probaby negates any argument that he should be sacked.

Is it wrong for anyone, whether they're in politics or not, to comment on their colleagues' (or former colleagues') futures? I'm not a politician. If I wrote "I think Peter Costello" should retire from politics, should I be sacked? Well, aside from the technicality that I'm not employed in the first place (and no-one takes seriously what I write or where I write it), Alexander Downer has every right to make known his feelings; as a former politician they carry more weight than anything I would have to say, and his opinions might land him in hot water with some of his former parliamentary colleagues, but he's a big boy and he can handle himself. He's probably only saying what a lot of other people wish they were in a position to state, anyway! Not that I give two hoots about Peter Costello anymore - Costello's future is up to Costello.

Actually, I do care what politicians think. I care what they think on the small issues - like whether certain of their colleagues should consider their future careers in politics - as much as I care what they think about on the "big" issues, like global warming, the economy, employment, education, housing, health, defence and social justice. I think it's important to know what a politician's views are about a whole range of issues, large and small, because we're the ones who elect them to decide a heck of a lot about our futures.

If you think I'm wrong then say "I think you're wrong". If you say, "You're wrong", how do you know?
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10 years 2 months ago #22 by Tushy
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Yeah true Sozz

Just seems so ongoing - if its not one having a go its another..

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10 years 2 months ago #23 by sozzled
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I know. But that's the nature of politics. *heh-heh-heh* :)

If you think I'm wrong then say "I think you're wrong". If you say, "You're wrong", how do you know?

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10 years 2 months ago #24 by Memsahib
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And the nature of politicians, bless their little cotton socks!

Cheers
Mem

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10 years 2 months ago #25 by Tushy
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Pauline Hansen in Headlines - what a joke - she must be short on cash lol

As much as I can see Sozz's view, I still recon its above and beyond -- its over the top -- all within one party. It gets to the point where you dont even listen anymore

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10 years 2 months ago #26 by Memsahib
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I do love characters such as Pauline Hanson and Bob Brown. They add a bit of spice to the Australian political scene.

While we may not necessarily subscribe to their political viewpoints, at least they occasionally make us think outside our comfortable little boxes. And just think, they provide far more comic relief than most of our highly rated comedy shows on the tivvie.

Mem

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10 years 2 months ago #27 by Wulf
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Hmmm...Politics.

Ok here we are having a State Election campaign. All the usual grab bag of promises, (most of which will be forgotten in the afteremath), personal attacks and etc.

What I cant get my head around is the claim, from both sides, that they all have a solution to the credit crises. I mean like what do they think we are, Dumb? As if a micro economy, at state level, can solve what is a world wide problem.

Hello!!! No-one's got any money, at least we peasants don't have any spare cash.

And as for the Federal level, they are now talking about adjusting pensions according to assets and etc. In short, some will get less so they can use the savings to raise pensions for the rest.
So, does that mean those with assets of half a million, ($450,000 of which is the home), may have a reduction?

All too confusing.

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10 years 2 months ago #28 by Memsahib
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It's interesting to watch the elections up north unfold. Especially the blame game that goes on - which I think most of us despise.

As for the discussions over pensions and assets, that was, I think, a media beat up. It was raised by an organisation, not the politicians. We'll have to keep an eye on that one and see if it gains traction.

One of the joys (sometimes) of my work is that it is part of our political environment. Everything I do means keeping a weather eye on the hill (Parliament House). It is great fun, although stressful at times.

What you do come to realise is that a good percentage of politicians are actually there to try and do the "right thing" (whatever that may be) by the Australian public. There are some grubs, but by and large, they are just like people everywhere - some good, some bad and a lot in between.

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Mem

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10 years 2 months ago #29 by Tushy
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Mems wrote

And just think, they provide far more comic relief than most of our highly rated comedy shows on the tivvie.


Yep that they do - specially this one - what does she expect in politics??

I agree that the Media throws out things hoping for the public to react/bite - troublemakers.. that annoys me[/size]

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10 years 2 months ago #30 by Memsahib
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Tushy, we are in complete agreement. I roared laughing when I saw that Warwick Cappa was up against Pauline Hanson. What a howler!

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Mem :lol:

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